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NameJohann Carl (Charles) Schantz 111, 6G Grandfather, M
Birth1721, Gondelsheim, Baden, Germany165
Death1774, Monckton Township, New Brunswick, Canada92,112
1Margretha (Margaret) Lintz 111, 6G Grandmother, F
Deathaft 1797, ?Hillsborough, New Brunswick, Canada92
FatherMatthias Lintz , M (ca1683-1776)
MotherUnknown Unknown , F
Marriage6 Dec 1752, St. Michaelis Evangelical Lutheran Church, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania111
Marr Memofrom church records
ChildrenJohannes (John) , M (1753-1810)
 Heinrich (Henry) , M (ca1758-1840)
 Anna Margretha (Margaret) , F (ca1760-1806)
Notes for Johann Carl (Charles) Schantz
He with his wife and children were among the original settlers of Monckton Township leaving from Philadelphia April 26 or 27 and arriving at the Petitcodiac river in the colony of Nova Scotia (later New Brunswick) on June 3, 1766. The date of arrival is confirmed by a letter from John Hall to Philadelphia. John Hall was a militia captain and an ironmonger and blacksmith who, as a representive of the land speculation company Dr. Benjamin Franklin and Co., accompanied the settlers to Monckton and provided them with their initial supplies.92,111 They were carried in the single-masted 50 ton sloop “Lovey” under Captain Nathaniel Shiverick.114

There was much confusion in the late 20th century over the origin of “Charles Jones” and why a presumably Welsh family would arrive in the company of an otherwise homogeneous group of German settlers recruited by John Hughes of Philadelphia. As it turned out, Carl Schantz was indeed German and his name was anglicized to Charles Jones before immigration to Monckton Township. A few historical writings over the next two centuries still refer to his first name as “Karl”, and several Jones families on New Brunswick censuses from the 1800’s list their origin as German.

He and his wife are listed as “Carl Schantz u:s.fr. [und seine Frau] Margretha” in their daughters’ joint baptismal record from St. Michael’s Lutheran Church in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on the day of departure to Nova Scotia. Along the top of the entry in St. Michael’s Taufbuch it reads: “Leute die heute abreisen nach Neuschottland” (People who leave today for Nova Scotia)111

There is record of Carl and Jacob Schantz on a 1749 passenger list for the Lydia, Capt. John Randolph, from Rotterdam via Coews, arr. Phildelphia 9 Oct. “Passengers from Wuertemberg, Durlach, Zweybrucken, Palatinate.” 113 Durlach is in the former Baden portion of Baden-Württemberg just east of the border with Rheinland-Pfalz, Zweibrücken is in southern Rheinland-Pfalz in the former Palatinate. Although it’s not definitively proven that this is the same Carl Schantz, it almost certainly is, based on circumstantial evidence reported by Les Bowser, and thus locates our Schantz origins to southwest Germany, likely in Baden. Carl signed the courthouse list of passengers in Philadelphia that day with a “+”, the same manner in which he later signed the Articles of Agreement to go to Monckton in 1766. Furthermore, Heinrich Müller, who signed the 1749 passenger list two down from Carl, twelve years later witnessed a marriage along with Charles Jones.112 Others listed on that ship on either side of Carl Schantz were from towns in Baden, while others farther away on the list were from Alsace-Lorraine. The family just below Carl in the listing was from Dietlingen, Baden; just below them was Heinrich Müller and below him was a family from Berghausen, Baden. The next logical step in research would be to peruse original church records from Dietlingen and Berghausen in modern-day Baden-Württemberg to try to find any Schantz families in these areas. As it turns out, genealogist Rick Crume did just that, locating Johann Carl Schantz and his brother Jacob to Gondelsheim, Baden, just 13 km from Berghausen.165

A separate source, Judge Bliss Botsford, wrote in 1885 of the settlers in general, claiming they came from the Rhine region to Philadelphia in 1749, a remarkable concurrence of the stated year of emigration with the record above.51,92 Fellow Monckton settlers, Jacob Treitz and Heinrich Stieff also arrived in Philadelphia in 1749, Treitz on the Dragon 13 days before Carl arrived and Stieff on the Fane 8 days after Carl arrived.112

At the time of his naturalization in 1765, Charles Jones stated his residence as Roxborough, so he would have been acquainted no doubt with fellow settlers Matthias Sommer, Michael Lutz and Heinrich Stief, also from Roxborough.166

The family’s first winters on the lands of Monckton Township were gruelling as documented by several sources. A letter from William Franklin to his father Benjamin Franklin on Oct 23, 1767 reports: "Mr. Jacob [sic - John] Hall (who keeps a Tavern at the Wheat sheaf near Frankford, and has been lately at Nova Scotia with Settlers for your Company of which he is likewise a Member) complains heavily of the narrow spiritedness and Mismanagement of Mr. Hughes and the other Members. They impowered him it seems to conduct there a Body of Settlers, and to furnish them with such Necessaries as they should have Occasion for till they could subsist themselves; but tho’ he gave them Nothing but what was indispensably [necessary] they refus’d on his Return to acc[ept his] account. This put it out of his Power to return again to Nova Scotia, he having bought Provisions, &c. there on his own Credit. By this means Numbers who had engag’d to accompany Mr. Hall, on his Return, were deterr’d from going, which has greatly retarded the Settlement. And the poor People who were left there last Fall, and who, as they were not yet able to raise any Thing for themselves rely’d on a further Support to be brought by Mr. Hall were during the whole Winter in the greatest Distress imaginable, and must infallibly have starv’d had it not been for Lieut. Gov. Franklin and Capt. Houston an old Settler in that Province, taking Compassion on them. These Gentlemen sent them Supplies from Time to Time in Confidence that the Company were Gentlemen of too much Honour not to repay them." A later letter from surveyor Charles Baker to John Hughes on July 24, 1769 reports with the interesting spelling of the time: "They beg you would let them have some Working Cattle and Some Cloaths and Provisions untill they will be able to Raise it to themselves which they think will not be long. I think it is a Very Great Pitty that they should be lett Suffer so much as they have done ever since they went there as they are a Set of the Best Settlers in them Parts it has Surprised every one that knew them to see how they have lived since they went there Mostly on Herbs which they gathered in the Marsh in the Spring etc."115

The year of death is derived from the Millidge Report of March 18, 1788 which states that he died “...about 14 years since”, placing the year circa 1774.92,167 Les Bowser also quoted Graves Political Papers, PANB MC1156, which states “Karl Jones, died 1774.”112
Newspaper clipping notes for Johann Carl (Charles) Schantz
From the Chignecto Post published in Sackville, Westmorland County, New Brunswick, January 14, 1886:
“The Pioneers of Westmorland (Judge Botsford lecture) .. The next immigrants who settled in Westmorland came to Petitcodiac (West. Co.) They left the Rhine in the year 1749 and proceeded to Pennsylvania then a British Colony. They ascended the Deleware and purchased and improved lands on the Schuylkill about twelve miles above Philadelphia. After remaining about 14 years they removed to this county under the impression that they could easily obtain large tracts of lands. It is said that these immigrants consisted of eleven families, but after much inquiry, I can only identify nine, being - STEEVES, LUTZ, SMITH, RICHIES [ed: in fact Ricker], SUMMERS, TRITES, JOHNS now JONES [ed: in fact the original name was Schantz] , WORTMAN and COPPLE [ed: missing Ackley and Reynolds]. They left the Delaware in the year 1763 [ed: in fact 1766] and touched at Digby, N.S. That part of the country at that time to which settlers were first attracted, Port Royal (now Annapolis), was a large garrison town. They remained there but a few days and proceeded up the Bay and finally landed at Hall's Creek (port of Moncton) at that time called Panscada Creek. Hall was master of the ship which brought the immigrants and landing gave his name to the Creek. This I had from one of the oldest inhabitants who is now dead. Old Mr. STEEVES settled in Hillsborough and some of his sons on the Petitcodiac. Old Mr. Steeves family on his arrival consisted of seven sons. ... May 21, 1772, another lot of immigrants came from Yorkshire, England. The late Charles DIXON with a few families, 62 persons in all, arrived at Fort Cumberland and in the following year some forty families joined them. Their names were METCALF, WELDON, DIXON, KEILLER, HUMPHREY, FAIRWATHER, HARPER, BALLOU, WELLS, ROBERTS, WATSON, GRACE, STONE, HARRISON, RICHARDSON, CHAPMAN, COOK, DOBSON, FOSTER, FRASER, OULTON, COLPITTS, FENTON, MITTEN, THOMPSON, BULMER, RIPLEY, BROWN, CARTER, KING, SIDDAL, TRUEMAN, TOWER, ROBINSON, SMITH, LOWERISON, LUSBY, BLACK, Chas. THOMPSON, TURNER, WRY, SNOWDON, FAWCETTS, ATKINSON, TRENHOLM, COATES, BLINKHORN, PIPES. Some settled in Sackville; some in Dorchester; the Colpitts, Fentons and Mittons in Cumberland. In Oct. 1782, the late Amos BOTSFORD arrived at Digby, N.S., moved to Fort Cumberland in 1785 and finally settled in Sackville. The CHANDLERS also arrived at the same time.”51
Notes for Johann Carl (Charles) & Margretha (Margaret) (Family)
marriage witnessed by Margretha Lintz’s brother, Michael Lintz and her brother-in-law, Christoph Weber.112
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